Is Being Saved Different Than Salvation? Part 1

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This study is going to take awhile, so I’ll be posting multiple parts as I go.
What idea are we exploring?
What if being saved from our sin by Yeshua Messiah [Jesus] is a completely different event and concept than being granted salvation and everlasting life?
Why would I ask such a question?

Consider this in Ephesians:
Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not from yourselves—it is the gift of God. It is not based on deeds, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship—created in Messiah Yeshua for good deeds, which God prepared beforehand so we might walk in them.
We are told point blank that we are saved by grace through faith, and that it is a gift.
And verse 9 is as clear as clear gets:  “It is not based on deeds.”
But immediately after, we are told that we are created for good deeds, that Yehova has prepared for us.  We are given information that we are expected to do deeds.

James tells us this about our faith:
James 2:17-20
17 So also faith, if it does not have works, is dead by itself.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith without works and I will show you faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one. You do well. The demons also believe—and shudder! 
20 But do you want to know, you empty person, that faith without works is dead?
We are told that unless we have works, we have no faith.
While Ephesians 2 tells us we are saved with faith and not with deeds, we find out in James that we have no faith without said deeds. How do we make sense of this?

There are three statements in Revelation [the Revelation of Yeshua Messiah commonly known as Jesus] indicating that doing works, keeping the commands of Yehova [God], is absolutely necessary.
We are told who make up the remnant of the church:
Revelation 12:17
17 So the dragon became enraged at the woman and went off to make war with the rest of her offspring—those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Yeshua.
This is the Revelation of Yeshua Messiah.
He identifies His church body as those keeping the commandments of God.
Works!! Deeds!!
The very deeds that Ephesians 2:10 tells us about!

We are told who the saints are, the elect:
Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Yeshua.
This is the Revelation of Yeshua Messiah.
He identifies His saints as those keeping the commandments of God.
Works!! Deeds!!
The very deeds that Ephesians 2:10 tells us about!

Yeshua Messiah then tells us who will be allowed into His kingdom:
Revelation 22:14
14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
This is the Revelation of Yeshua Messiah.
He identifies who is allowed into New Jerusalem as those keeping the commandments of God.
Works!! Deeds!!
The very deeds that Ephesians 2:10 tells us about!
He does not say those who ‘believe’ are allowed in.
He says those who do works, keeping the commandments of Yehova, are allowed in!!
If you study about New Jerusalem, you’ll find this is heaven.
This is where those who are granted eternal life and salvation will reside with Yehova.
No one can be given eternal life without access to the Tree of Life, and it is contained in a City that is only accessible by those who do works, those who keep the commandments of Yehova.

How important is it to Yehova, that we keep His commandments:
Deuteronomy 32:46-47
“Set your heart on all the words with which I warn you today, so that you command your children to guard to do all the Words of this Torah. For it is not a worthless Word for you, because it is your life…”
We are told that keeping His commands is our life!!
We are told the same in Ecclesiastes 12:13
13 A final word, when all has been heard:
    Fear God and keep His commandments!
For this applies to all mankind.

Yeshua Messiah tells us it is very important:
John 14:15
 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.”
and this…
John 14:21
21 He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me.
and this…
John 15:10
 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

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Why are we told that we are saved by grace and faith alone without works, but then many scriptures tell us works are necessary to enter the kingdom??

If we are “saved” when we turn to Messiah, repenting and asking Him for forgiveness, then why does He say this:
Matthew 24:13
13 “But he who endures to the end shall be saved.”
If we are saved already, then what does enduring until the end look like?
What does that entail?
What must we do?

1John 2:3-6
Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

If we are “saved” when we turn to Messiah, repenting and asking Him for forgiveness, then why is it necessary to work out our salvation?
Philippians 2:12
12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
We are told that working out our salvation is tied to obedience.

Why does Paul say this:
1Corinthians 9
24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. 25 And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown.26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. 27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

Typical church doctrine tells us to come to Jesus, accept Him and be saved.
Is Messiah the starting line and the finish line in the race we must run?
What does Yeshua Messiah tell us?
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”
He tells us that He is not the finish line.
He tells us that we come to Him and He is the starting line.
But then, we must continue on.
Where must we continue?
To the Father.

Romans 10:13
13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Various scriptures listed above tell us that entering the kingdom of heaven requires us to keep the commandments of God.  
But to be saved, all we need to do is confess that Yeshua is Lord.

Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
We see a distinction in this direct quote of Yeshua Messiah.
While Romans tells us those who call on His name will be saved, we see that a different criteria is given to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Not those who call on His name, but only those who do the will of the Father.
What is the Father’s will? His commandments, His instructions, His Torah.
Psalm 40:8
I delight to do Your will, O my God,
And Your law is within my heart.

I find this interesting:
2Corinthians 7:9-11
Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. 10 For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death.
If salvation comes when we ‘accept’ Yeshua Messiah, confessing He is Lord, then why is Paul speaking about something leading to salvation afterwards?

This tells us that salvation comes later, as a separate event.
Looking at Romans 10 again, we see a difference between confessing and repenting.
Romans 10:8-9
But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

We are told that confessing leads us to being saved in Romans.
We are told in 2Corinthians that repenting leads us to salvation.
Let’s take a look at these two words:

con·fess
/kənˈfes/
verb
admit or state that one has committed a crime or is at fault in some way.
“he confessed that he had attacked the old man”
admit, acknowledge, reveal, make known, disclose, divulge, make public, avow, declare, blurt out, profess, own up to, tell all about, bring into the open, bring to light;

repent  
re·​pent | \ ri-ˈpent
verb
1: to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one’s life
2a: to feel regret or contrition
b: to change one’s mind

We can see that to confess and to repent are very different things.
To confess is to acknowledge and admit, and leads to being saved.
To repent is to change your behavior, and it leads to salvation.

I will continue to study this in depth, and will post additional parts to this study.
In the meantime, please consider this idea and pray about it.
I’ll continue to explore the idea in scripture that being saved and being granted salvation are two separate events.
Possibly, we are saved from our life of sin when we come to Messiah, but we are granted salvation when we change who we are and endure til the end?

Who is the remnant? Who are the saints?  Who get to enter the City and have access to the Tree of Life?
Those who keep the commandments.
It is not those who are simply ‘saved’ according to the scriptures reviewed so far.
We have a race to run.
We must endure to the end.
We must work out our salvation.
We must keep the commandments of Yehova.
We must have the faith and testimony of Yeshua Messiah.

The idea that I am exploring is not common.
But if true, it makes sense of many scriptures that seem to be in some sort of conflict.
If being saved and being granted salvation are two separate events, then lots of puzzle pieces fall into place.
I am not stating this as fact, but it is an idea I am studying and will continue to do so.
Feel free to study this idea and pray about it and give me your feedback!

Stay tuned for more…

 

3 thoughts on “Is Being Saved Different Than Salvation? Part 1”

  1. First, may I say I appreciate your thoroughness and honesty.
    I am in process and currently understand that what is termed “saved” is an acceptance of Messiah’s death as payment for what I deserve because of sin and the condemnation or death sentence is now transferred from me to that death (Rom 8:1). In that moment, I become complete in Messiah, but not mature. Much like a fertilized egg in the womb is a complete human being, but not mature. There is a difference between justification and sanctification. The first begins the process, the second is the process that ends in salvation (Phil 2:12).
    Justification = instantaneous; unearned; Holy Spirit is implanted
    Sanctification = ongoing submission/obedience empowered by Holy Spirit
    Glorification = reward of justification and sanctification

    Moving out of Greek linear thinking is not easy. 🙂

  2. Been looking at this myself and though only just seen it. I have to ask myself does the bible actually say we die and go to heaven ?
    I believe it is more scriptural that many who are “saved” will wake up on the day of judgement
    Where as very few will experience the kingdom. Though the question is does one have to actually die to experience the kingdom if they fulfill the requirements set by Christ.

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