Sodom and Gomorrah and Nephilim??????

Most people, even those who don’t care for the scriptures, are familiar with the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Evil, wicked people were destroyed by Yahuah, mostly because of homosexuality, as it is taught.
Let’s explore whether the issue was homosexuality, or something else???

We see the beginning of this story in Genesis 18:20-21
20 Then Elohim said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great indeed, and their sin is very grievous indeed. 21 I want to go down now, and see if they deserve destruction, as its outcry has come to Me. And if not, I will know.”

Abraham then intercedes on Lot’s behalf, who lives in Sodom.
Yahuah sends His two angelic messengers to Sodom, to warn and protect Lot and his family, and then to destroy the cities.

General teachings on this subject indicate that the angels stayed with Lot in his home due to Lot’s hospitality.  We are told a group of men demand that Lot give up the angelic guests, so they might have homosexual relations with them. The angels blind the group of men to prevent any craziness. The angels urge Lot, his wife, and two daughters to leave, Lot’s wife turns to a pillar of salt for looking back, and then the cities are destroyed.

I’ve learned that a funny thing happens when we dig into scripture, as opposed to basing our understanding on the teachings of men.
I find this especially true when we study the Hebrew…
Let’s do just that. Let’s take a closer look.

Genesis 19:1-3
Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, while Lot was sitting at the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he got up to meet them, and bowed down with his face to the ground. Then he said, “Here, please my lords, please turn aside to your servant’s house, spend the night and wash your feet. Then you can get up early and go on your way.” But they said, “No. We will spend the night in the open plaza.” But he urged them strongly, so they turned aside to him and they came into his house.

Just to confirm who Lot was dealing with:
angel;  H4397; mal’ak
מֲלְאָךְ mălʼâk, mal-awk’; from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):—ambassador, angel, king, messenger.

What did Lot immediately suggest to these angels?
‘turn aside’ ~ H5493; cuwr
to turn aside, depart, turn in unto, depart from way, avoid, to be removed, to come to an end, to cause to turn aside, cause to depart, remove, take away, put away, depose, to put aside, leave undone, retract, reject, abolish, to be taken away, be removed

And to explore Lot’s countenance in insisting that the angels stay in his home:
‘urged them strongly’ ~ H6484; patsar
פָּצַר pâtsar, paw-tsar’; a primitive root; to peck at, i.e. (figuratively) stun or dull:—press, urge, stubbornness.
to beat, to make blunt, with a hostile mind

Let’s glean a few details from the story so far:
1. The angels arrived in the evening.
2. Lot realized they were special, and bowed down before them.
3. Lot offered them hospitality.
4. Lot, not knowing their purpose, tried to steer them to turn in early and then to rise and leave early in the morning.
5. The angels intended to stay in the city plaza.
6. Lot “urged them strongly” to stay with him instead.

We find some peculiar things happening here, if we slow down and think about it.
How would you respond if you came to be in the presence of angels, and knew it?

Would you urge them to turn in and then leave first thing, with no regard to their purpose? That is exactly what Lot did.
Does that make sense to you?

Would you be fascinated by the presence of angels?
Would you be fascinated in knowing their purpose?
Or would you encourage them to go to sleep and then leave as soon as possible?

When Lot was given first choice of the land he would take when he separated from Abraham, he chose what he liked with his eyes.  He sought after what pleased him most. He chose to live among the evil of Sodom and Gomorrah.
When the angels arrived, Lot knew the evil ways of the people in Sodom and Gomorrah.
His first priority in dealing with the angels was to prevent them from seeing the people of the city and their deeds, and to urge them to leave before being able to do so.
Was Lot trying to protect the evil of his home?  Was he trying to protect that which he knew would not be pleasing to messengers of Elohim?  Did he really think he could fool these angels, to hide the true nature of Sodom and Gomorrah from their sight?
I find this very interesting…

Let’s continue with the story in Genesis 19:4-8
They had not yet lain down when the men of the city (the men of Sodom) surrounded the house—from youth to elderly, all the people without exception. And they called out to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have relations with them!”
But Lot went out to them at the doorway and shut the door behind him, and said, “Please, my brothers, don’t act wickedly. Look, I have two daughters who haven’t been intimate with a man. Please let me bring them out to you—do to them whatever is good in your eyes! However, do nothing to these men—since they have come under the protection of my roof.”
“Get out of the way!” they said, and they said, “This one came as an outsider and dares to judge! Now we’ll treat you worse than them!”
So they strongly pressed against the man, Lot, and moved in close to break the door down. 10 But the men reached out their hands, brought Lot into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 Then they struck the men at the doorway of the house with blindness—from youth to elderly—so that they gave up trying to find the doorway.

The story is often portrayed that a group of homosexual men surrounded Lot’s home.  A small, perverted, unruly mob, willing to rape and do harm.
But…   What does scripture tell us?
from youth to elderly, all the people without exception.”
We find that every single person in Sodom, from young to old, without exception, and having nothing to do with gender, came to Lot’s home.
When the scriptures state that the ‘men of the city’ came, that verbiage is in conflict with the remainder of the verse which says ‘all the people without exception’.

Let’s take a look at the Hebrew. Is this translation correct?
H582  ~  ‘enowsh
man, mortal man, person, mankind; of an individual; men (collective); man, mankind
And from the Gesenius’ Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon:
a man, but only in poetic language. It is rarely used as a singular in sense, but instead, generally a collection of the whole human race.

This word can certainly mean man, but this word can also mean persons, and it can refer to a general group of peoples, as in mankind or the human race.  In the context of this story, I believe this word is referring to the whole population of Sodom, not just the men as is depicted in our typical English translations.  And since the verse goes on to say all the people without exception,” I’m pretty sure we can bank on it!!

So, back to the story…
The ENTIRE city population was there, not just a group of wicked men.  Think about the town or city you live in.  What would it take to get EVERY SINGLE PERSON, young or old, to show up in one place.
Not some…
Not most…
But every-single-person?
It doesn’t matter whether you live in a small  town or a big city.
It would be nearly impossible to get every single person to show up for something.
Obviously, something very special was happening in Sodom.
Something extraordinary.

So here is the question:
Is it just a matter of knowing angels were in their midst?
To be honest, that would be enough for me.  I would show up for that reason alone.

But what else do we know from the story?
“Bring them out to us so that we can have relations with them!”
Well, there you have it.  [The collective whole, all of] the people of Sodom wanted to have sex with the angels. Is it purely homosexual in nature?  That is the assumption as far as typical church teaching goes.
But we know that “all the people without exception” were present, regardless of their age or their gender. So when they say they wanted to have sex with the angels, it is not explicitly stating homosexuality only.  If we take this verse literally instead of how it has been taught to us, the request to have sex with them was a request by ALL the people, as a collective whole.

What happens next?
Lot offers his two virgin daughters to the crowd, instead of the angels.
“Look, I have two daughters who haven’t been intimate with a man. Please let me bring them out to you—do to them whatever is good in your eyes! However, do nothing to these men—since they have come under the protection of my roof.”

What kind of a man would do this?
The angels fall under the protection of Lot’s roof (his hospitality).
How much more so should his daughters be offered the protection of his household?
And yet, Lot is willing to offer up his daughters to prevent something else from happening. Lot is taking drastic, horrific measures to prevent something bad from happening…
I believe that this “something bad” is far worse than homosexual relations with angel messengers.
The crowd responds with violence, stating their intention to harm Lot far worse if he does not give in to their demands. The angel messengers struck the crowd with blindness, again specifying both young and elderly.
Then they struck the men at the doorway of the house with blindness—from youth to elderly

Why am I even writing this article?
Why am I looking at the details of this story so closely?
What does it matter.
Consider this:
Do we know anything from scripture that refers to angels having sex with humans?
While this might be a surprise to you, the answer is yes.
Churches don’t teach this, although most pastors are aware of it (I know because I’ve asked some).

I believe this has to do with the consequences of a fallen world.
After Adam and Eve (and haSatan) committed sin, Yahuah gave consequences for their actions, because He is a just Elohim.
Genesis 3:15 is especially interesting:
I will put animosity
    between you and the woman—
        between your seed and her seed.
    He will crush your head,
        and you will crush his heel.

Did you catch that?
This consequence has to do with haSatan (the serpent in the garden) and Messiah.  But it is not limited to haSatan and Messiah.
It says there will be enmity between his seed and her seed.
The decendents of each…
Things that make you go hmmmmmm,,,,

Fast forward to the giants in scripture. Everyone has heard of David and Goliath. We all know that Goliath was referred to as a giant.
Was he really a “giant” or was he just an abnormally large man?
Genesis 6 tells us the answer…

Genesis 6:2
then the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were good and they took for themselves wives, any they chose.
Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, whenever the sons of God came to the daughters of men, and gave birth to them.   Those were the mighty men of old, men of renown.

First of all, these verses speak of the offspring between the daughters of men and the sons of God.
Let’s take a closer look at these offspring:
Nephilim
H5303, nĕphiyl
נְפִיל nᵉphîyl, nef-eel’; or נְפִל nᵉphil;  
giants, the Nephilim

OK, right there in the Hebrew, we see there are giants in the land, referred to as Nephilim.
Here is the King James version:
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Giants!!
Not the Jolly Green Giant.
Not Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum giants.
But biblical, scriptural giants, like Goliath and Og of Bashan: [Deuteronomy 3:11 ~ For only King Og of the Bashan survived from the remnant of the Rephaim. In fact, his bed was made of iron—is it not in Rabbah of the Ammonites? Nine cubits (13 1/2 feet) was its length and four cubits (6 feet) its width, according to the cubit of a man.]
Biblical, scriptural giants, just as we seen in Numbers 13:28-33
28 Except, the people living in the land are powerful, and the cities are fortified and very large. We even saw the sons of Anak there! 29 Amalek is living in the land of the Negev, the Hittites, Jebusites, and Amorites are living in the mountains, and the Canaanites are living near the sea and along the bank of the Jordan.”
30 Then Caleb quieted the people before Moses, and said, “We should definitely go up and capture the land, for we can certainly do it!”
31 But the men who had gone up with him said, “We cannot attack these people, because they are stronger than we.” 32 They spread among Bnei-Yisrael a bad report about the land they had explored, saying, “The land through which we passed to explore devours its residents. All the people we saw there are men of great size! 33 We also saw there the Nephilim. (The sons of Anak are from the Nephilim.) We seemed like grasshoppers in our eyes as well as theirs!”

There are many more references to giants in scripture, but this is enough for now…
Back to their origins in Genesis 6.
The Nephilim, the giants, came to be as the offspring between sons of God and the daughters of men.
The Hebrew word ‘ben’ does not tell us they were angels EXACTLY in a straight forward manner, but the definition as angels is included in Strong’s:
H1121 ben
son, grandson, child, member of a group; sons (as characterisation, i.e. sons of injustice [for un- righteous men] or sons of God [for angels], people (of a nation) (pl)

How can we verify that in this case, the definition of angels is applicable?
There are two ways to confirm:
1.  The fact that they mate with human women and create GIANTS is one obvious proof. How does that happen if human men mate with human women? It doesn’t.
2.  We see the same Hebrew words used in context in Job 1:6-8
One day the sons of God came to present themselves before Elohim, and the satan also came with them. Elohim said to the satan, “Where have you come from?”
The satan responded to Elohim and said, “From roaming the earth and from walking on it.”
Elohim said to the satan, “Did you notice my servant Job? There is no one like him on the earth—a blameless and upright man, who fears God and spurns evil.”

Obviously in Job 1, the ben elohym are supernatural beings, angels, including haSatan himself!! Not only does this bit of scripture confirm that ben elyhym can be and are angels, but it also confirms that these angels have the ability to go to and fro on the earth, thus having access to the daughters of men.

So we have used scripture, including a look at some Hebrew words, to set the precedent that rebellious or fallen angels mated with human women, and the results were a giant race called Nephilim.
How does this play out?

Are you ready for this?
Noah’s flood.
Yes, that’s right.
We are taught beginning in Sunday School that Noah’s flood was the result of men becoming evil over time.
Well, there were evil men before Noah’s time. Cain killed Abel.
There have been evil men after Noah’s time.
There are evil men today.
So what???
Is it worth destroying all of creation except for eight individuals because there were some evil men upon the earth?

Let’s explore the details a bit more…
Genesis 6:5
Then Elohim saw that the wickedness of mankind was great on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of their heart was only evil all the time.

Churches teach that this verse tells us men became evil.
Most people just accept this idea and do not study it any further.
But let’s take a close look at EXACTLY what this is saying.
It says 
EVERY INCLINATION
OF THE THOUGHTS
OF THEIR HEART
WAS ONLY EVIL
ALL THE TIME.

Think of the most evil person you’ve ever heard of…
Hitler?
Charles Manson?
Stalin?
Pol Pot?
Che?
Mao Zedong?
American treatment of Native Americans?

We can identify numerous atrocities in the history of mankind, and we can typically identify a single influence for this evil.
Take Hitler, for example.
Was Hitler only evil, all the time, in every inclination?
No, he was not.
He was married. He had children. He had friends.
Was he capable of evil? History tells us that yes, he was.
But this does not fit the description of Genesis 6:5.

What kind of creature is this:
EVERY INCLINATION
OF THE THOUGHTS
OF THEIR HEART
WAS ONLY EVIL
ALL THE TIME.

This is not possible for a human being.
Even the worst of humans have good thoughts, good deeds, loved ones, etc.

What if the offspring of fallen angels were this evil?
Is that plausible?
If we are to believe the book of Enoch, this is exactly possible and probable. The book of Enoch describes this atrocity in great detail.

Getting back to the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, let’s wrap this up.
Were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed because of homosexuality?
In depth study of the verbiage, including looking at the Hebrew, we find this is not the case.
Sure, it is possible that homosexual behavior might have been present in Sodom and Gomorrah, but is there any precedence of Yahuah destroying civilizations for it?
No, there isn’t, even though He calls it an abomination.

Is there any precedence in scripture showing that Yahuah would destroy civilizations because of genetic corruption of His Creation?
Absolutely. Noah’s flood, to cleanse the earth of the Nephilim giants, who were ‘only evil all the time’.

Looking back at Sodom and Gomorrah, is it possible the entire population [young and old, every single person] of Sodom wanted the two angel messengers in order to have relations, in order to recreate the Nephilim?
I think this is not only possible, but also probable.

If your knowledge of scripture only comes from what you’ve learned from other men, from what is taught in churches, then the ideas I’ve presented here probably seem quite bizarre, even crazy.

However, everything I have presented here aligns with the Hebrew text, and also makes sense, when the details of the text are studied and evaluated.

Think on these things, and pray about them…

 

8 thoughts on “Sodom and Gomorrah and Nephilim??????”

  1. There are only three times when God orders total destruction of populations, in the time of Noah: Canaan: and Sodom/Gomorrah. Only one thing links them: Nephilim blood and blood lines. Hence the only reason for the shedding of animal blood (blood is life, is holy) through meat eating after the flood as a prophylactic on the earth against further incursions.
    Was there an incursion in Job’s time, referring to Satan’s entry into the throne room to announce his conquest of the earth?
    Today we have an attempt to eradicate farm animals under various pretexts. Occultists prefer veganism.

  2. What qualifies as vast enough, as comprehensive enough, as representative enough to justifiably render a city and its people?
    Time, history and “unblemished” Doctrine lie in one’s power to restore the unambiguous verdict on this matter.
    The Gospel of truth and authority.

    I always feel a sort of vindication and solace when I read a translation interchangeable with my own.
    It’s hard not to see it for its divine word and Prophetic foreshadowing… There is little confusion. I was happy to have read that. Your interpretation and expression was on point!

  3. Why did the *men* want to have sex with angels? Is there something happening with sex that they believed that is lost to us?

    I get wanting to restart the nephilim project, but how does men having sex with angels do that? There’s something important here that we’re missing.

  4. Romans 4:15
    because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.

    Above verse explains it all. Why would God destroy a world where there is no law. God’s word is clear that where there is no law then there is no sin. Then for God to destroy the whole earth and cities like Sodom and Gomorah, there ha to be a completely different reason. As you have explained it is surely to destroy the fallen angelic race.

    In Genesis 6 when it is mentioned the Wickedness of MANKIND was greater, it means rather than sin it is the evil nature was so great that humans did not have that likeness of God in them because they mixed with the fallen angels.

    So basically God will not destroy for sin as there is no law and the only reason for God to destroy was the increase of evil had reached the climax and the whole world was demonic because of the influence of the fallen angels. Sodom and Gomorah as mentioned in 2 Peter 2 and Jude 6 followed the same method as it was in Genesis 6 so God had no choice but to destroy.

    When God said to Anraham even if 10 people were there or even if one was there who is righteous i will not destroy implies that from the little child to every adult people were corrupted by this wickedness of angelic and human mating.

  5. Romans 4:15
    because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.

    Above verse explains it all. Why would God destroy a world where there is no law. God’s word is clear that where there is no law then there is no sin. Then for God to destroy the whole earth and cities like Sodom and Gomorah, there ha to be a completely different reason. As you have explained it is surely to destroy the fallen angelic race.

    In Genesis 6 when it is mentioned the Wickedness of MANKIND was greater, it means rather than sin it is the evil nature was so great that humans did not have that likeness of God in them because they mixed with the fallen angels.

    So basically God will not destroy for sin as there is no law and the only reason for God to destroy was the increase of evil had reached the climax and the whole world was demonic because of the influence of the fallen angels. Sodom and Gomorah as mentioned in 2 Peter 2 and Jude 6 followed the same method as it was in Genesis 6 so God had no choice but to destroy.

    When God said to Anraham even if 10 people were there or even if one was there who is righteous i will not destroy implies that from the little child to every adult people were corrupted by this wickedness of angelic and human mating.

  6. great read, insightful, until—-an error.

    regarding gen 6.5

    then god saw that the wickedness of MANKIND (not nephilim) was great in the earth

    so yes, MAN was that evil.

    second error—–

    the sheer wickedness of sodom (MANKIND) shows how wicked mankind becomes. clearly, both sexual and homosexual rape was EASILY considered by them. thats a very black state of the heart for MANKIND to sink to. the fact that they woke up in the middle of the night just to sexually abuse strangers is awfully wicked. it would be naive to think they didnt intend to do more to the angels. they were going to kill them. surely you envision a bloodbath of horror and pain intended by the MANKIND of sodom. and the scripture gives the RESAON for them to behave so vilely:

    “this one came as an outsider to JUDGE!”

    they knew the angel was a judge. so they wanted to STOP THE ANGEL FROM EXECUTING JUDGMENT.
    and they wanted to kill him and (pardon the language) screw him to death as an added act of disgust and mutilation. MANKIND of sodom and gomorrah were WICKEDLY MEAN GHOULS.

    consider Romans 3.10

    “according as it hath been written — ‘There is none righteous, NOT EVEN ONE;
    11There is none who is understanding, there is none who is seeking after God.
    12All did go out of the way, together they became unprofitable, THERE IS NONE DOING GOOD, NOT EVEN ONE
    13A sepulchre opened is their throat; with their tongues they used deceit; poison of asps is under their lips.
    14Whose mouth is FULL of cursing and bitterness.
    15SWIFT ARE THEIR FEET TO SHED BLOOD
    16RUIN AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR WAYS.
    17And a way of peace they did not know.
    18There is NO FEAR OF GOD before their eyes.’
    19¶And we have known that as many things as the law saith, to those in the law it doth speak, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may come under judgment to God;”

    sounds like sodom. but it was the Jews. they killed their own messiah using bitter torture. they even recieved Barrabas instead. they surrounded Him like the wicked men of sodom did to Lot to deliver their full hatred at Jesus. the jews were some really bad people also. why?

    because they knew Jesus was their Judge, and they wanted to stop him.

    that said, like you, i am baffled that Lot wanted to hide their wickedness?! then offer his daughters!!! yet the Lord saved Lot because he was the only “righteous” one left? i dont get it at all. Lot seems to be equally twisted as his townsmen.

    but let God be found true and MANKIND (me and my limited understanding) a liar.

    thx and Jesus bless you.

    1. Hi Matt!!
      I find it fascinating to set aside the things I’ve been taught my whole life, and just study and pray over scripture.
      I often find things that are not included in the “teachings of men” or even worse, are contrary to the teachings of men.
      The masses have defaulted to believing whatever comes out of the seminary, as opposed to studying for themselves.
      It is a good thing to dig in, pray, and let Yahuah reveal His understanding to us.
      Scripture promises this to us.

      James 1:5-8
      But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all without hesitation and without reproach; and it will be given to him. 6 But let him ask in faith, without any doubting—for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7 For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord— 8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

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