I continue to be quite surprised by how many Torah observant friends I meet who believe the mainstream church is OK and in the Kingdom, but just a little confused.
Those same people will compare the church doctrines to scripture, just as I do in this blog, and say they have it wrong.
These same people will describe their entry into Torah as a calling, and as having been Called Out of the Mainstream Church.

I guess my first question is this:
If the mainstream church is just confused but is still in the Kingdom, then why is it necessary to be called out of it?

Secondly, just how wrong can we have things, and still be in the Kingdom?  I think this question is incredibly important, because I don’t think any of us have it perfect.   Please be wary of anyone who says they are right about everything…

I may not be able to answer these questions perfectly, but I’ll give it a shot, using scripture.
Let’s take a look at why it might be necessary for us to be ‘called out of the mainstream church’ and into Torah.
I’ve mentioned this scripture a number of times in various articles, but it is so very important.  This is where I need to begin today:
Jeremiah 16:14-22

God Will Restore Israel

¹⁴ “Therefore behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord, “that it shall no more be said, ‘The Lord lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt,’ ¹⁵ but, ‘The Lord lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north and from all the lands where He had driven them.’ For I will bring them back into their land which I gave to their fathers.
¹⁶ “Behold, I will send for many fishermen,” says the Lord, “and they shall fish them; and afterward I will send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain and every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks. ¹⁷ For My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from My face, nor is their iniquity hidden from My eyes. ¹⁸ And first I will repay double for their iniquity and their sin, because they have defiled My land; they have filled My inheritance with the carcasses of their detestable and abominable idols.”
¹⁹ O Lord, my strength and my fortress,
My refuge in the day of affliction,
The Gentiles shall come to You
From the ends of the earth and say,
“Surely our fathers have inherited lies,
Worthlessness and unprofitable things.”
²⁰ Will a man make gods for himself,
Which are not gods?
²¹ “Therefore behold, I will this once cause them to know,
I will cause them to know
My hand and My might;
And they shall know that My name is the Lord.

I need to reference verses 19 and 20 here, but I included from verse 14 on in order to establish a time frame.
Is this warning regarding something that is ancient? Something that has already happened in our distant past?
No, that is not the case.
Verses 14 and 15 tell us of a second exodus. This second exodus will be so fantastic and amazing that people will no longer speak of the first exodus from Egypt.
The second exodus is not recorded anywhere in history, and mankind is still speaking of the Exodus from Egypt.
That tells us this has not yet occurred.
Verse 16 tells us “they” will be fished, and then hunted.
Who are “they”?
Verse 15 tells us:  “the children of Israel”
Yahuah will send for many fishermen, to fish for them.
I believe we are experiencing this phenomena right now.
People are returning to Torah.
People like me are writing blogs like this, fishing for those who are called, but need help understanding this calling.
After the fishers, we see that hunters will be sent.
I admit, I do not fully understand verses 16, 17, and 18 with regard to the hunters. It speaks of
being hunted in the holes of the rocks
double payment for iniquity and sin
defilement of His land
and filled His inheritance with carcasses of idols.

Is this referring to a different “they” or is this still in reference to the scattered children of Israel?  I’m not yet sure, and I’m still studying and praying about this.  But I can tell it is significant…

So then, we get to the part I need for this discussion:
The Gentiles will realize they have learned nothing but lies.
These lies are unprofitable and worthless.
As a result of these lies, men will create gods for themselves, except they will not be gods.

Whether this is happening now, or is still in the future, there will come a time when Gentiles (40,000 denominations of churches) will realize they have inherited nothing but lies.
Jeremiah, from way back in history, is telling us that there will come a time when we’ll know we’ve received false teaching.
Can we trust Jeremiah?

Amos 3:7
For the Master יהוה does no matter unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.

Are you more of a New Testament type? Does anyone in the NT tell us we can trust the prophets?

2Peter 2:19-21
And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; ²⁰ knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, ²¹ for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God^[c] spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

Ok, there we go.  Jeremiah is absolutely trustworthy.
So we can bank on it that it will happen, and I believe is happening, that Gentiles are waking up to the fact that we have been taught lies.
If you have experienced this calling to Torah, then you know exactly what I’m talking about. If you have not experienced this calling to Torah, then I imagine all of my thoughts, ideas, and shared scriptures are confusing beyond belief.

Are there any more prophets that predict a failed teaching system?Ezekiel 22:25-29
25“There is a conspiracy of her prophets in her midst, like a roaring lion tearing the prey. They have devoured life, they have taken wealth and precious matters, they have made many widows in her midst.
26“Her priests have done violence to My teaching [See Zeph. 3:4; Luke 16:16] and they profane My set-apart matters. They have not distinguished between the set-apart and profane, nor have they made known the difference between the unclean and the clean. And they have hidden their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I am profaned in their midst.
27“Her leaders in her midst are like wolves tearing the prey, to shed blood, to destroy lives, and to get greedy gain.
28“And her prophets have coated them with whitewash, seeing a false vision, and divining a lie for them, saying, ‘Thus said the Master יהוה,’ when יהוה had not spoken.
29“The people of the land have practiced oppression, and committed robbery, and have wronged the poor and needy. And they oppressed the stranger without right-ruling.

How about some thoughts from the prophet Isaiah?
Isaiah 2:2-4
2And it shall be in the latter days that the mountain of the House of יהוה [Elohim] is established on the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills. And all nations shall flow to it.
3And many peoples shall come and say, “Come, and let us go up to the mountain of יהוה [Elohim], to the House of the Elohim of Ya‛aqoḇ [Jacob], and let Him teach us His ways, and let us walk in His paths, for out of Tsiyon [Zion] comes forth the Torah [the law], and the Word of יהוה [Elohim] from Yerushalayim [Jerusalem].”

What about New Testament resources for this?
All of 2Peter Chapter 2 is about false teaching and false teachers:
Destructive Doctrines
2 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. ² And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. ³ By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.
Doom of False Teachers
⁴ For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; ⁵ and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one ofeight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; ⁶ and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; ⁷ and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked ⁸ (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)— ⁹ then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, ¹⁰ and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries, ¹¹ whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.
Depravity of False Teachers
¹² But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, ¹³ and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, ¹⁴ having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. ¹⁵ They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; ¹⁶ but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man’s voice restrained the madness of the prophet.
¹⁷ These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
Deceptions of False Teachers
¹⁸ For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. ¹⁹ While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. ²⁰ For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. ²¹ For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. ²² But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”

That leads us into 2Peter 3:14-17, which is about false teaching due to misunderstanding and twisting of Paul’s writings [and the rest of the scriptures]:

¹⁴ Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; ¹⁵ and consider that the long suffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, ¹⁶ as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
¹⁷ You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 

OK, there are several scriptures warning us that a time will come, and may very well be here now (I think so) when people will turn to truth, and turn away from false teaching from mainstream church culture.  We know for a fact that these things will happen.  The only remaining issue is to discern whether we are living in the time of these events…

OK, so back to the idea of whether or not the mainstream church is part of the Kingdom…
First of all, Jeremiah tells us a time will come when the people of the world will realize they have been taught nothing but lies, unprofitable and worthless.

If the church is taught lies, but they are still “In the Kingdom” then Jeremiah 16:19 would say this:
¹⁹ O Lord, my strength and my fortress,
My refuge in the day of affliction,
The Gentiles shall come to You
From the ends of the earth and say,
“Surely our fathers have inherited lies, things that cause confusion and division, but not to worry, because God doesn’t mind a bit of confusion, and everyone is welcome in heaven, no matter what.”

That isn’t what it says, right?
Nope.
It says those lies are “Worthlessness and unprofitable things.”

Is there anything else in scripture that says these lies are a problem?
In Revelation 22:15, Yeshua Messiah tells us who is NOT in His Kingdom:
“But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.”
Straight from the mouth of our Savior – those who love and practice lies are not in His kingdom.  Sorry.  His words, not mine…

I recently was involved in a discussion on Facebook regarding this topic and idea.  A lady who sometimes attends my fellowship said this:
“Paul’s writings on LAW vs grace have brought the church into such a state of confusion- it will take YHVH to alleviate this problem!”
A statement like that sounds good, doesn’t it?
This is the kind of thing we hear in mainstream church.  When people don’t know something or don’t understand something, they write it off.  They claim that God will sort it all out one day.  Once that happens, then we’ll all be good, right?
Nope. Sorry, but scripture says otherwise.

What if I told you this isn’t going to be sorted out “SOMEDAY” by YHVH?  What if I told you this has already been sorted out?
Here are the words of Yeshua Messiah, sorting this very issue out for us so very long ago:
Matthew 7:21-23
²¹ “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. ²² Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ ²³ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

What do we see here?
People who thought they were good finding out they are far from good.  We have confused people here. We have people who thought they were serving Messiah, and yet, He had no idea who they were. 
Not only did He not know them, He told them to leave.
We cannot say that God will one day sort out this mess about law and grace, Torah or no Torah. Confusion about these things will not be allowed, because the truth has already been given to us.
Messiah has already spoken.
Messiah has already solved this problem.
“Depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.”
How could He be any more direct?
How could Messiah be any more clear?
No, the confusion between law and grace is not to be figured out by God someday…
It is done.
It is finished.
It is already sorted out.

If you’ve read many of my writings in this blog, you know that I point out all of the warnings in scripture.
I point out all the scriptures that sort these things out for us.  The problem is, few are interested in those scriptures. Few are interested in heeding those warnings.  People will say they mean something else.  Or people will take a snippet of scripture out of context to refute the very words of Messiah!!
Such is life. I can only study and share.  I cannot decide what others will think and believe.  And so, I pray for them in love, not in criticism.

Let’s take a look at the most important question I raised at the beginning of this study.

“Just how wrong can we have things, and still be in the Kingdom? “
Wow. Did I say that out loud?
Yes, I did.
I will say again that I do not believe any of us have everything figured out perfectly. But I have hope that when the two witnesses come, they will correct all misunderstandings…  Until that time, we pray and we study.

But, that nagging question…
How imperfect can we be and still be in the Kingdom?
Revelation 14:12 answers this question for us.
This describes who the saints are, who are the elect:
¹² Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Messiah.

There you go. 
Do your best to keep the commands, and have the faith/testimony of Yeshua Messiah.
Do these things and you are part of the kingdom.

Still wondering how “perfect” we need to be?
Take a look at David.
His writings in Psalms shows his absolute love for the Torah, for Yahuah’s truth, for Yahuah’s ways.
Was he perfect in keeping the ways of Yahuah?
Absolutely not.
He committed adultery, and then sent her husband to the front lines in battle to be killed in order to keep his adultery a secret.
That is not good behavior, eh?
David was not perfect. But he loved the ways of Yahuah.
And he repented for his sin, for his failures.
We gain salvation through faith. It is a gift so that no man should boast.
We keep the commands in order to show that we love the ways of Yahuah, and want to be His.

Did Messiah ever tell us how to love Him?
I’m glad you asked…

John 14:15
 “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
In case you missed it, He tells us a second time:
John 14:21
“He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me.”

We do not keep the Torah commands to achieve salvation, as we are often accused (and then called legalists, heretics, that we are cursed and under a burden, etc).
We simply keep the commands because Messiah told us to.
He said that is how He will know we love Him.